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23 June 2025

Raising the Roof podcast: Building better workspaces, with David Smalley

Did you catch our latest episode of Raising the Roof with David Smalley from Material Source?

David joins our host and CEO, Nick Atkin, to explore how workspaces are evolving - and what this means for how we all work and connect with colleagues. From hybrid working to wellbeing-first design, this episode dives into why the traditional office might be on its way out, and what’s coming next.

Nick shares how Yorkshire Housing’s zero-carbon workspace, The Place, was built with flexibility and wellbeing as a top priority - with no reception desk, no harsh lighting, just a warm, welcoming space where people can work how they want. The episode also digs into the rise of flexible working and the balancing act it requires.

As David puts it:

“You have to give people flexibility for them to work the best work, but at the same time, the corporate objectives have to be adhered to. So it's that balance. And mandating five days a week, in my humble opinion, doesn't necessarily deal with both of those.”

A bit more about our guest: David’s background spans publishing, communications, and design. He’s passionate about creating spaces that bring people together and supporting better, more human ways of working.

To hear more from him and Nick, tune in now on Spotify or Apple Podcasts.